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		<title>Wilsonge at 08:17, 23 April 2013</title>
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		<updated>2013-04-23T08:17:30Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Actually, it is possible to load jQuery UI Sortable without loading core first given the way the method is written.  Core isn&amp;#039;t automatically loaded.  [[User:Mbabker|Mbabker]] ([[User talk:Mbabker|talk]]) 23:42, 1 December 2012 (CST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Actually, it is possible to load jQuery UI Sortable without loading core first given the way the method is written.  Core isn&amp;#039;t automatically loaded.  [[User:Mbabker|Mbabker]] ([[User talk:Mbabker|talk]]) 23:42, 1 December 2012 (CST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:The plan is to port all of the core behaviors from Mootools to jQuery in time for Joomla v 4.0.0. If we can do this, we will stop using MT behaviors in the core at that time. &lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:However, even if this happens, there are no plans that I know of to stop supporting multiple JS libraries. Specifically, I would strongly favor continuing to use jQuery in compatibility mode so 3p devs can still use MT or other libraries. The only difference would be that you would have to take responsibility for loading MT with your extension.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:As for the JHtml::_(&#039;jquery.ui&#039;) I&#039;ll have to pass! --[[User:Wilsonge|Wilsonge]] ([[User talk:Wilsonge|talk]]) 03:17, 23 April 2013 (CDT)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Wilsonge</name></author>
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		<title>Tom Hutchison: Hutchy68 moved page Talk:Javascript Frameworks to J3.0 talk:Javascript Frameworks: New namespace version 3.x specific</title>
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		<updated>2013-03-11T01:28:46Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Hutchy68 moved page &lt;a href=&quot;/Talk:Javascript_Frameworks&quot; class=&quot;mw-redirect&quot; title=&quot;Talk:Javascript Frameworks&quot;&gt;Talk:Javascript Frameworks&lt;/a&gt; to &lt;a href=&quot;/J3.x_talk:Javascript_Frameworks&quot; title=&quot;J3.x talk:Javascript Frameworks&quot;&gt;J3.0 talk:Javascript Frameworks&lt;/a&gt;: New namespace version 3.x specific&lt;/p&gt;
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		<author><name>Tom Hutchison</name></author>
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		<title>Mbabker at 05:42, 2 December 2012</title>
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		<updated>2012-12-02T05:42:20Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;For Mootools, am I correct that it will be removed in the future?  Ideally, the Joomla libraries should be first as it would be preferred to use Joomla namespaced functions to ones tied directly to an underlying framework - but until they are divorced from Mootools I don&amp;#039;t want to encourage their usage[with the potential for conflicts between having 3 entire frameworks included on the same page].&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;For Mootools, am I correct that it will be removed in the future?  Ideally, the Joomla libraries should be first as it would be preferred to use Joomla namespaced functions to ones tied directly to an underlying framework - but until they are divorced from Mootools I don&amp;#039;t want to encourage their usage[with the potential for conflicts between having 3 entire frameworks included on the same page].&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Actually, it is possible to load jQuery UI Sortable without loading core first given the way the method is written.  Core isn&#039;t automatically loaded.  [[User:Mbabker|Mbabker]] ([[User talk:Mbabker|talk]]) 23:42, 1 December 2012 (CST)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Garyamort: Created page with &quot;Is there a point to calling JHtml::_(&#039;jquery.ui&#039; array(&#039;core&#039;, &#039;sortable&#039;); ?  At the moment, if only sortable is loaded, it will automatically add in core as well since it re...&quot;</title>
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		<updated>2012-12-02T03:03:23Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;Is there a point to calling JHtml::_(&amp;#039;jquery.ui&amp;#039; array(&amp;#039;core&amp;#039;, &amp;#039;sortable&amp;#039;); ?  At the moment, if only sortable is loaded, it will automatically add in core as well since it re...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Is there a point to calling JHtml::_(&amp;#039;jquery.ui&amp;#039; array(&amp;#039;core&amp;#039;, &amp;#039;sortable&amp;#039;); ?  At the moment, if only sortable is loaded, it will automatically add in core as well since it requires core.&lt;br /&gt;
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I am assuming at some point in time these frameworks should be moved to their own pages...I just don&amp;#039;t have time to organize them and am filling them in as I work with them.&lt;br /&gt;
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For Mootools, am I correct that it will be removed in the future?  Ideally, the Joomla libraries should be first as it would be preferred to use Joomla namespaced functions to ones tied directly to an underlying framework - but until they are divorced from Mootools I don&amp;#039;t want to encourage their usage[with the potential for conflicts between having 3 entire frameworks included on the same page].&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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