Joomla! Documentation™

Request for arbitrage: update to current removed

Request for arbitrage: Changed the description to note that an update goes for the current version. Think the destinction is relevant because it doesn't allow you to pick one, it decides for you and picks the current one. Sovainfo (talk) 05:21, 1 May 2014 (CDT)

Agreed, the update is only the most current one. You do not have a choice if on 3.2.0 to update to 3.2.1, you'll get 3.2.4 or 3.3.0. Tom Hutchison (talk) 07:53, 1 May 2014 (CDT)

Sorry but you are incorrect because the update version can be defined in an xml file situated on a URL defined in the 'Custom' Server field. Topazgb 13:21, 1 May 2014 (CDT)

One has nothing to do with the other, but I can see what you are thinking. The problem is the word 'current' is used as it should be. The goal is to keep the users on the 'current' release, not a previous release. "A/an" is indefinite and "the" is specific. "A" current update would imply a non specific choice or even multiple choices for the end user. "The" current update would be the specific update offered, the "current" update. Since users aren't presented with a choice of updates, e.g. 3.0 installed, update to 3.1.0, 3.0.1, 3.2.4, 3.3.0, now pick one, "the current update" is appropriate as it is one specific update. Even if a user changes to a custom URL, different server(LTS or STS), only one update is presented, which may not be the current one, but to the component it is the current one(higher version compared to what is installed). Hope that helps. Tom Hutchison (talk) 09:33, 2 May 2014 (CDT)

The Second sentence (of the help page)describes that there are choices of the different update servers ... but the first sentence only specifies the result of the default setting. ergo the first sentence (of the help page is inaccurate.

"This screen allows Joomla! to be updated quickly by downloading the current update package" is inaccurate/incomplete because it only allows for the downloading of the current update package with the default/pre-set settings. Therefore the definite article 'the' is being incorrectly used because it is possible to download any update version.

In short ... that screen can be used to download any update version not just "the current update package"

--Topazgb 11:36, 2 May 2014 (CDT)

Now it states it is the default. While I was at it, noted the change of the server is for advanced users.

So why would you want users to use a specific, unsupported update? Devs on the testing server are advanced users, regular users should always be using the latest version.

The help screen's job is to give help to the common, everyday users. You are splitting hairs on the 99%(targeted audience) vs the 1%(highly advanced users/developers). Tom Hutchison (talk) 10:03, 3 May 2014 (CDT)

I do not "want users to use a specific, unsupported update" ... And I am not splitting hairs. There may be experienced Web masters who are not familiar with Joomla and (for a number of reasons) wish to use a specific update. Giving accurate information will help them without hindering the average user. But inaccurate information (by way of inferring only the current update can be downloaded from that screen) can cause a misconception for experienced Web masters that wish to experiment with Joomla. --Topazgb 11:14, 3 May 2014 (CDT)

I would like to see (a link to) an example xml file that updates to J3.2.3. Also the description of 4.1 should be changed so webmasters know when to choose the last two options. Sovainfo (talk) 20:29, 3 May 2014 (CDT)